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		<title>Comment on OPINION: Why Photoshop is Ruining Landscape Photography &#124; ELLIOT PAUL STERN by Elliot</title>
		<link>http://www.blueridgephotographyworkshops.com/2013/03/06/opinion-why-photoshop-is-ruining-landscape-photography-elliot-paul-stern/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 16:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ryan,
I am Elliot Stern and run a photography workshop company in Virginia, USA. I liked your article about Photoshop and Landscape. I am not a landscape photographer and lean more towards photo journalism, street and documentary photography.

When we teach students a lot of emphasis is put on getting it right in the camera. There should be little that needs to be done to a properly shot image. That said, there are very few photographs to would not benefit from a tiny bit of the manipulation I write about below.

I am 70 years old so when it comes to photography I have seen a lot over the years. When it came to image processing I had my own darkroom and manipulated images via burning and dodging and in some cases cropping. That is also where I draw the line with digital. I will only go as far digitally as I was able to do in a wet darkroom. The exception to that could be a white balance adjustment and sharpening because of the nature of digital images losing up sharpness because of anti aliasing filters in the front of sensors.

If there were “clouds” in the image you wrote about and they needed to be enhanced through a program like Nik Viveza 2, or Nik Silver efex pro 2 or both, I consider that the same as manipulating in a darkroom. But to add clouds or anything else for that matter is in my opinion not photography.

There is a very fine line. I have heard and I quote “but that is the way I saw it, but the camera gave me something different”. “So I altered the image the way I saw it.” So where does the line get crossed. For me, it is as I wrote above. It goes no further than what I could have done in a darkroom which consists of paper type, chemistry type, burning and dodging tools, film type that was used and chemistry used for that film. All of those things can be done to a certain degree in a program like Lightroom 4.4.

Even worse than adding clouds, which was wrong, are photo journalists today altering the meaning of a photograph adding or taking out people or things or changing the look of the location to make the image say things that were not real. Many photo journalists in the past few years have been caught with their pants down and taken to task because of their image additions or subtractions.

Elliot Stern]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ryan,<br />
I am Elliot Stern and run a photography workshop company in Virginia, USA. I liked your article about Photoshop and Landscape. I am not a landscape photographer and lean more towards photo journalism, street and documentary photography.</p>
<p>When we teach students a lot of emphasis is put on getting it right in the camera. There should be little that needs to be done to a properly shot image. That said, there are very few photographs to would not benefit from a tiny bit of the manipulation I write about below.</p>
<p>I am 70 years old so when it comes to photography I have seen a lot over the years. When it came to image processing I had my own darkroom and manipulated images via burning and dodging and in some cases cropping. That is also where I draw the line with digital. I will only go as far digitally as I was able to do in a wet darkroom. The exception to that could be a white balance adjustment and sharpening because of the nature of digital images losing up sharpness because of anti aliasing filters in the front of sensors.</p>
<p>If there were “clouds” in the image you wrote about and they needed to be enhanced through a program like Nik Viveza 2, or Nik Silver efex pro 2 or both, I consider that the same as manipulating in a darkroom. But to add clouds or anything else for that matter is in my opinion not photography.</p>
<p>There is a very fine line. I have heard and I quote “but that is the way I saw it, but the camera gave me something different”. “So I altered the image the way I saw it.” So where does the line get crossed. For me, it is as I wrote above. It goes no further than what I could have done in a darkroom which consists of paper type, chemistry type, burning and dodging tools, film type that was used and chemistry used for that film. All of those things can be done to a certain degree in a program like Lightroom 4.4.</p>
<p>Even worse than adding clouds, which was wrong, are photo journalists today altering the meaning of a photograph adding or taking out people or things or changing the look of the location to make the image say things that were not real. Many photo journalists in the past few years have been caught with their pants down and taken to task because of their image additions or subtractions.</p>
<p>Elliot Stern</p>
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		<title>Comment on Honestly. The Bear Ate My Camera! by Gary McGinnis</title>
		<link>http://www.blueridgephotographyworkshops.com/2012/05/20/honestly-the-bear-ate-my-camera/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary McGinnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 01:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All of your comments are valid.  Flying limits your vision you go airport to airport and pay through the nose for a rental car.  I think I will drive and maybe visit a friend or two along the way.  in addition to freedom of the road I can take as much gear and clothes as I want. 

I can find out what is around the corner or over the next sand dune or even venture to one of the islands in the area if I choose.  I just hope gas price continue to fall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of your comments are valid.  Flying limits your vision you go airport to airport and pay through the nose for a rental car.  I think I will drive and maybe visit a friend or two along the way.  in addition to freedom of the road I can take as much gear and clothes as I want. </p>
<p>I can find out what is around the corner or over the next sand dune or even venture to one of the islands in the area if I choose.  I just hope gas price continue to fall.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lightroom 4: The New And Improved Tonal Adjustments by Lightroom 4: What The Heck Is a Process Version? » » Blue Ridge Photography WorkshopsBlue Ridge Photography Workshops</title>
		<link>http://www.blueridgephotographyworkshops.com/2012/04/03/process-versions-lightroom/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Lightroom 4: What The Heck Is a Process Version? » » Blue Ridge Photography WorkshopsBlue Ridge Photography Workshops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Big and Heavy Tripods: Why I Carry One Almost Everywhere by Brian J. Zwit's Big and Heavy Tripod &#124; Induro Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.blueridgephotographyworkshops.com/2012/03/13/big-heavy-tripods-why-carry/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian J. Zwit's Big and Heavy Tripod &#124; Induro Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Lightroom 4 Update by Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, congratulations on the shiny new MacBook Pro. It is a great laptop and will wear like iron. I use a three year old MacBook Pro and it is still going strong.

Our next &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blueridgephotographyworkshops.com/creating-workflow-adobe-lightroom-4/&quot; title=&quot;Link to information about Lightroom 4 class&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lightroom class is April 28&lt;/a&gt; in Sterling, VA. Other dates will be announced shortly. However, the class will also be held in Charlottesville on Friday, November 9. This class is sponsored by the Chalottesville Camera Club and is currently open only to members of the Club. (Please contact Pat for more information and the registration URL or send me an e-mail at brian@blueridgeworkshops.com.)

As to your questions regarding Lightroom 4, I think it would be fine to load it on your computer. However, as noted in the post, update the application as soon as an update becomes available. (Given that Adobe has admitted to these issues-something software vendors are loath to do, I expect that we will see a update shortly.) After you install Lightroom 4, you will have two choices: (1) create a new catalog or (2) upgrade the Lightroom 3 catalog. What you do depends, I believe, on your workflow.

You indicated that this will be your &quot;on the road&quot; computer. As such, I suspect that this computer will not be the final resting place for your images. In other words, the plan appears to be that, when on the road, you will download and edit images on the laptop and then, when you return home, transfer them to a desktop computer. (This is my workflow as well.) If this is the case, I would recommend starting with a new catalog on the laptop. This will give you a clean starting point, uncluttered by previous images.

If, on the other hand, you already have Lightroom 3 and images that were processed in Lightroom 3 on the computer, I would recommend upgrading the Lightroom 3 catalog to Lightroom 4. You really don&#039;t want to make using your images more difficult by having to go to two different programs to catalog and edit them. What you gain by starting with a clean catalog would be wiped out by the unnecessary complication of using two versions of the same program. Also, if you are using Lightroom 4 on the laptop, I would recommend using Lightroom 4 on the desktop. (You are allowed to install Lightroom on a desktop and laptop as long as only one copy will be used at a time.)

Despite the issues found by Adobe and as I noted in my first post about Lightroom 4, I still think it is a good upgrade. The tone adjustment tools are alone worth the upgrade and, being a nature photographer, I really like the map module.

I hope this helps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, congratulations on the shiny new MacBook Pro. It is a great laptop and will wear like iron. I use a three year old MacBook Pro and it is still going strong.</p>
<p>Our next <a href="http://www.blueridgephotographyworkshops.com/creating-workflow-adobe-lightroom-4/" title="Link to information about Lightroom 4 class" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Lightroom class is April 28</a> in Sterling, VA. Other dates will be announced shortly. However, the class will also be held in Charlottesville on Friday, November 9. This class is sponsored by the Chalottesville Camera Club and is currently open only to members of the Club. (Please contact Pat for more information and the registration URL or send me an e-mail at <a href="mailto:brian@blueridgeworkshops.com">brian@blueridgeworkshops.com</a>.)</p>
<p>As to your questions regarding Lightroom 4, I think it would be fine to load it on your computer. However, as noted in the post, update the application as soon as an update becomes available. (Given that Adobe has admitted to these issues-something software vendors are loath to do, I expect that we will see a update shortly.) After you install Lightroom 4, you will have two choices: (1) create a new catalog or (2) upgrade the Lightroom 3 catalog. What you do depends, I believe, on your workflow.</p>
<p>You indicated that this will be your &#8220;on the road&#8221; computer. As such, I suspect that this computer will not be the final resting place for your images. In other words, the plan appears to be that, when on the road, you will download and edit images on the laptop and then, when you return home, transfer them to a desktop computer. (This is my workflow as well.) If this is the case, I would recommend starting with a new catalog on the laptop. This will give you a clean starting point, uncluttered by previous images.</p>
<p>If, on the other hand, you already have Lightroom 3 and images that were processed in Lightroom 3 on the computer, I would recommend upgrading the Lightroom 3 catalog to Lightroom 4. You really don&#8217;t want to make using your images more difficult by having to go to two different programs to catalog and edit them. What you gain by starting with a clean catalog would be wiped out by the unnecessary complication of using two versions of the same program. Also, if you are using Lightroom 4 on the laptop, I would recommend using Lightroom 4 on the desktop. (You are allowed to install Lightroom on a desktop and laptop as long as only one copy will be used at a time.)</p>
<p>Despite the issues found by Adobe and as I noted in my first post about Lightroom 4, I still think it is a good upgrade. The tone adjustment tools are alone worth the upgrade and, being a nature photographer, I really like the map module.</p>
<p>I hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lightroom 4 Update by William Ross</title>
		<link>http://www.blueridgephotographyworkshops.com/2012/03/19/lightroom-4-update/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>William Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 03:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian;
I&#039;m a member of the Charlottesville Camera Club and you came to my attention thru Pat Txxxxxx.
Your March 19th note re: LR4 from what I can tell is spot on.  I have been a longtime user of LR1 thru 3 but have learned that Adobe upgrades seem put steep curves in learning at the beginning of each new version.  I have just gotten a shiny new MacBook pro (13&quot;) to be my &#039;on the road&#039; computer but have not even loaded any version of LR on it.  Like you, I&#039;m waiting for LR 4.n.n or such.  My questions are:  Are you going to do a one day LR course soon?  Would it work for me to start out with a new installation of LR4 and some RAW files (keeping it simple to begin with!).  I shoot a Canon 5DMk2 and 1DMk4 with good glass.  Comments please.  --Bill]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian;<br />
I&#8217;m a member of the Charlottesville Camera Club and you came to my attention thru Pat Txxxxxx.<br />
Your March 19th note re: LR4 from what I can tell is spot on.  I have been a longtime user of LR1 thru 3 but have learned that Adobe upgrades seem put steep curves in learning at the beginning of each new version.  I have just gotten a shiny new MacBook pro (13&#8243;) to be my &#8216;on the road&#8217; computer but have not even loaded any version of LR on it.  Like you, I&#8217;m waiting for LR 4.n.n or such.  My questions are:  Are you going to do a one day LR course soon?  Would it work for me to start out with a new installation of LR4 and some RAW files (keeping it simple to begin with!).  I shoot a Canon 5DMk2 and 1DMk4 with good glass.  Comments please.  &#8211;Bill</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cherry Blossoms: A Few Practicalities for Shooting by Norma Scogin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norma Scogin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 21:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the tips. I had been planning to go later in the week. Sounds like Monday or Tuesday might be better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tips. I had been planning to go later in the week. Sounds like Monday or Tuesday might be better.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Nikon D800: An Update by Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 13:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It use to be that we had two choices: Canon or Nikon plus a couple of niche players, e.g., Lecia. Now, we have the two standard bearers plus Panasonic, Samsung, and Sony plus a few brands, including Fuji, Olympus, Pentax, and Ricoh, that were given up as lost but are now producing some incredible equipment. Sometimes it hard being a photographer! We have so many choices today and more everyday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It use to be that we had two choices: Canon or Nikon plus a couple of niche players, e.g., Lecia. Now, we have the two standard bearers plus Panasonic, Samsung, and Sony plus a few brands, including Fuji, Olympus, Pentax, and Ricoh, that were given up as lost but are now producing some incredible equipment. Sometimes it hard being a photographer! We have so many choices today and more everyday.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Nikon D800: An Update by Ed.Dickau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed.Dickau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 04:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I will be purchasing the D800; my D700 and D7000 will remain in my camera stable. I am also watching carefully: http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_pro1/product_views/ and will probably add this also as a back up system. The day will come when Fuji offers a full rame challenger to Leica.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I will be purchasing the D800; my D700 and D7000 will remain in my camera stable. I am also watching carefully: <a href="http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_pro1/product_views/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_pro1/product_views/</a> and will probably add this also as a back up system. The day will come when Fuji offers a full rame challenger to Leica.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Nikon D800: An Update by Lightroom 4 is Now Available - Blue Ridge Photography WorkshopsBlue Ridge Photography Workshops</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lightroom 4 is Now Available - Blue Ridge Photography WorkshopsBlue Ridge Photography Workshops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 17:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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